In hour one, Michelle takes a closer look at Indianapolis’ ongoing experiment with privatizing public education. She examines how privatization efforts have reshaped schools in the city, fueled segregation, and impacted students, teachers, and school staff. The conversation explores the broader consequences of treating public education as a marketplace rather than a public good.

In hour two, Clayton and Mark sit down with Jeff Demaree, a Cincinnati Public Schools teacher and pedestrian safety advocate. Jeff provides an update on his efforts to organize teens around pedestrian safety and traffic calming initiatives throughout Cincinnati, while discussing the importance of safer streets and youth engagement in local advocacy work.

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In hour one, Michelle sits down with Susan VonderHaar of Citizens for Rights of the Ohio River Watershed (CROW) for a conversation on the environmental challenges facing the Ohio River and the broader environmental movement. The two discuss water quality, environmental stewardship, and the importance of protecting the natural world through a lens of compassion, sustainability, and care for all living beings.

In hour two, Clayton and Mark are joined by social worker Ali Rizvi, Executive Director of Garden of Joy Culinary Academy. Ali shares his journey in social work and explains how Garden of Joy empowers at-risk youth through cooking, gardening, and hands-on learning that builds confidence, life skills and community connection.

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In hour one, Michelle sits down with consultant and author Peter Block for a wide-ranging conversation on organizing, citizenship, and building stronger communities. The two explore what it takes to create deeper human connection in modern society, the importance of civic engagement, and Peter’s perspective on how patriarchy continues to shape institutions and culture in the West.

In hour two, Clayton and Mark are joined by treasurer Michael Gustin to discuss the financial health of Cincinnati Public Schools and the growing fiscal challenges facing the district. Gustin also gives listeners an inside look at the day-to-day responsibilities of a school treasurer and how long-term financial forecasting impacts public education.

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