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Brothers in Aerospace and Defense

Brothers in Aerospace and Defense

By: DeWayne Allen & Robert Wesley
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”Brothers in Aerospace and Defense” is a podcast that delves deep into the world of aerospace and defense with a unique perspective. Together, we’ll explore the fascinating intersection of technology and business in this dynamic industry. Our goal is to shed light on the achievements, challenges, and inspiring stories of black executives in aerospace and defense. In each episode, we’ll invite prominent guests who have made significant contributions to the field. We’ll also discuss current trends, innovations, and the future of aerospace and defense.Copyright 2024 All rights reserved. Economics
Episodes
  • Building Leadership Range Across Aerospace, Consulting, and Operations
    Jun 22 2026

    Hosts DeWayne Allen and Rob Wesley sit down with Ikenna Okoli for the Power and Propulsion interview series. Ikenna shares his career journey across aerospace, consulting, operations, supply chain, advanced manufacturing, and Amazon, offering a grounded look at how technical depth can grow into leadership range. The conversation explores shop-floor credibility, Lean thinking, inclusive leadership, operational ownership, and the importance of building trust with teams. Ikenna also shares practical advice for young engineers, supply chain professionals, consultants, and future leaders looking to build long-term career momentum.


    Key Takeaways:


    00:00 - Introduction to Power and Propulsion with Ikenna Okoli

    01:00 - Career Journey and Leadership Evolution

    03:38 - Learning Go-See Leadership and Supplier Engagement

    05:13 - Connecting Lean, Six Sigma, and Business Performance

    08:25 - What Aerospace Teaches About Complex Operating Systems

    11:33 - Why Operational Depth Still Matters

    15:48 - GE Lessons: Solve Hard Problems and Earn Trust

    19:09 - Linking the Shop Floor, Customer, Supply Chain, and Financial Performance

    21:54 - Transitioning from Aerospace Operations to Consulting

    26:19 - Diagnosing Symptoms vs. Root Causes in Business Transformation

    30:42 - Influence vs. Ownership in Consulting and Operations

    35:55 - Inclusive Leadership in High-Stakes Environments

    40:33 - Ikenna’s North Star: Operational Excellence and People Development

    44:12 - Leadership Muscles to Build Early: Networking and Communication

    46:36 - Advice for the Next Generation of Leaders

    49:49 - How Brothers in Aerospace and Defense Can Support Ikenna’s Mission

    51:47 - Giving Leaders Their Flowers and Showcasing Aerospace Careers

    54:08 - Final Reflections on Leadership Range and Career Growth

    Resources:

    Connect with Ikenna Okoli on LinkedIn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/okoli-ikenna/


    Connect with us:

    DeWayne Allen on LinkedIn

    Robert Wesley on LinkedIn

    Subscribe to our Newsletter:

    The StoryTeller by DeWayne Allen

    Autonomous Platforms of the Future by Robert Wesley


    Produced by NOVA

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    56 mins
  • How Great Leaders Fix Broken Aerospace Organizations
    Apr 27 2026

    In this episode, hosts DeWayne Allen and Rob Wesley launch the new Power and Propulsion series with aerospace transformation leader Lillian Dukes. Drawing from decades of experience across aviation operations, supply chain, restructuring, and executive leadership, Lillian shares what it really takes to stabilize broken organizations, rebuild credibility, and lead transformation that actually sticks. The conversation covers regulatory pressure, leadership under stress, supply chain realities, the shift from engineer to executive, and the importance of mentorship, sponsorship, and measurable impact for the next generation of aerospace leaders.

    Key Takeaways:

    00:00 - Introduction to the Power and Propulsion Series

    01:22 - Mission of the Series and Introduction of Lillian Dukes

    04:15 - Walking Into a Broken Organization

    06:31 - What to Ignore in the First 30 Days

    10:13 - System Problems vs. Leadership Problems

    15:50 - What Real Transformation Looks Like

    19:40 - Why Executives Lose Touch With Operational Reality

    21:29 - The Structural Challenge in Aerospace Supply Chains

    25:21 - From Engineer to Executive

    30:04 - Training, Development, and Scaling Leadership

    32:24 - AI, Analytics, and Change Readiness

    33:38 - Representation, Legacy, and Leadership Responsibility

    36:18 - Advice for Black Engineers and Emerging Leaders

    38:24 - Mentorship, Sponsorship, and Breaking Through

    39:59 - The Leadership Impact That Outlasts a Career

    41:51 - Lillian Dukes on Her Work Today and What Comes Next

    Resources:

    LAD Consulting LLC

    Connect with Lillian Dukes on LinkedIn


    Connect with us:

    DeWayne Allen on LinkedIn

    Robert Wesley on LinkedIn

    Subscribe to our Newsletter:

    The StoryTeller by DeWayne Allen

    Autonomous Platforms of the Future by Robert Wesley


    Produced by NOVA


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    43 mins
  • Ep. 19. How Missile Defense Actually Works Behind the Radar, AI, and Interceptors
    Apr 15 2026

    In this episode, hosts DeWayne Allen and Rob Wesley break down how missile defense systems work using a simple framework: detect, decide, and defeat. They walk through the sensor networks that identify threats, the command-and-control systems that evaluate response options, and the intercept technologies that stop incoming targets. Along the way, they also dig into the business side of missile defense, from billion-dollar sensor programs and software-driven system integration to the growing pressure to lower cost-per-shot against emerging drone and swarm threats.

    Key Takeaways:

    00:46 – Newsreel: Defense Budget Pressure and Commercial Aerospace Supply Chain Challenges

    05:17 – Detect: Why Early Threat Detection Is the Foundation of Missile Defense

    05:38 – Technical Breakdown of the Detect Layer

    07:06 – Business Dynamics of Sensor Networks and Detection Programs

    09:17 – Decide: Command and Control as the Brain of the System

    11:18 – Software Integration, AI/ML, and the Business Value of the Decide Layer

    14:36 – Defeat: Interceptors, Directed Energy, and Kill Chain Execution

    16:02 – Cost-Per-Shot Economics and the Business of Intercept Systems

    20:04 – The Low-Cost Drone Threat and Attritable Countermeasures

    23:16 – Architecture and Operations: How Detect, Decide, and Defeat Work Together

    24:29 – Why Missile Defense Is Sold as an Integrated Architecture

    27:53 – Strategic Wrap-Up: Why the Full System Matters

    30:22 – Closing and Subscribe for More Aerospace and Defense Conversations

    Resources:

    CSIS Missile Threat


    Connect with us:

    DeWayne Allen on LinkedIn

    Robert Wesley on LinkedIn

    Subscribe to our Newsletter:

    The StoryTeller by DeWayne Allen

    Autonomous Platforms of the Future by Robert Wesley


    Produced by NOVA

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    32 mins
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