• Echo & The Bunnymen: The Album That Broke Echo & The Bunnymen
    Jun 11 2026
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    Welcome back to the CROSSED CHANNELS podcast — the podcast in which music journalists/obsessives Dan Epstein (the Yank) and Tony Fletcher (the Limey) clash and connect over music from either side of the pond.

    In this 29th episode we discuss not one of the first four classic albums by Liverpool legends Echo & The Bunnymen, but the troubled, eponymous fifth album. Tony actually witnessed the record’s long gestation in person while writing the band’s authorized 1987 biography Never Stop: The Echo & The Bunnymen Story, which makes Echo & The Bunnymen the first album to be featured on CROSSED CHANNELS that one of us was in the studio for. It is also perfect subject matter for Crossed Channels as it’s an album made by a British band in a British studio but with an American audience very much in mind.

    Since he was present for its recording — both in subsequently-abandoned form in Liverpool with producer Gil Norton, as well as in London with eventual producer Laurie Latham - and given that he traveled with the band on their subsequent 1988 US tour for SPIN magazine, Tony has quite a bit of insider information to share during this episode. Some of it is explosive, and much of it will be new to Bunnymen fans, so this episode should be well worth the price of admission!

    Released in July 1987, three years after the jaw-droppingly brilliant Ocean Rain, and nearly two years after the Latham-produced single “Bring On The Dancing Horses” signified a change in musical approach (and landed on the platinum Pretty In Pink soundtrack), Echo & The Bunnymen was the band’s most commercially successful release in the US, where the single “Lips Like Sugar” was a significant radio and dancefloor hit. In the UK, the album peaked at #4, just as Ocean Rain had done. But improved US sales aside, Echo & The Bunnymen was widely seen as a disaster.

    Once considered the greatest band in the UK, Echo & The Bunnymen - whose drummer Pete de Freitas had returned to the fold after going AWOL in the USA and “totally insane” in the process - now seemed sadly adrift amid Laurie Latham’s generically “80s” pop production. Not even the presence of Doors keyboardist Ray Manzarek on a remake of the beloved B-side “Bedbugs and Ballyhoo” — the band subsequently covered The Doors’ “People Are Strange” for the soundtrack of the 1987 teen horror film The Lost Boys — could re-light their fire during the recording sessions.

    As always, the first 10 or so minutes of this episode are free for all to hear. To listen in entirety, along with all of our previous complete CROSSED CHANNELS episodes, just sign up for a paid subscription to one of our Substacks — or, better yet, sign up for a paid subscription to both of them! tonyfletcher.substack.com danepstein.substack.com

    By doing so, you will not only get a new episode of CROSSED CHANNELS every month in your inbox, but also receive other exclusive posts from each of us, as well as full-time access to all the good stuff in our respective archives. Plus, your monthly paid subscription will allow us to afford our monthly post-recording repast over at one of our many fine (or at least decent enough) Asian eateries!

    Remember — CROSSED CHANNELS, unlike most podcasts, does not take ads; we value your intelligence too highly to subject you to that sort of thing. And if you are already a paid subscriber to one or both of our Substacks, THANK YOU. We appreciate it more than you can know!

    Theme music for this episode is Dan’s project The Corinthian Columns and its latest release “Hydrangea,” available on Bandcamp here.

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    15 mins
  • Pick n' Mix: Rickenbackers, Rolling Stones, Lloyd Cole, Luna and "C**ts Like Tom Jones"
    May 7 2026

    Welcome to the CROSSED CHANNELS podcast — the podcast in which music journalists/obsessives Dan Epstein (the Yank) and Tony Fletcher (the Limey) clash and connect over music from either side of the pond.

    Instead of our usual format of discussing one particular artist or album, we’re trying something new for Ep. 28: each bringing three music-related topics to the table without informing the other in advance, and going wherever those topics take us. We’re calling this new format the CROSSED CHANNELS “Pick n’ Mix” — it’s like a spirited bar conversation, only without the alcohol.

    So please join us and try to hang on as the conversation careens from the merits (or otherwise) of Rickenbacker guitars, to the The Rolling Stones’ most vital period, to what makes for a good live show when you’re in your 60s, and more. Tony even finally reveals the correct answer to the multiple choice question/poll that he posted on April 23 asking which Welsh band referred to Tom Jones and Shirley Bassey as "c**ts".

    Also different: we’re making this Pick n’ Mix episode available to all listeners, and not just paid subscribers to Jagged Time Lapse or Tony Fletcher, Wordsmith like we usually do. While we would obviously love it if you became a paid subscriber to either of our Substacks (if you’re not already), we wanted to give everyone a full dose of CROSSED CHANNELS action, in hopes of tempting some new subscribers.

    Our other entirely free episode — “Oasis: What’s The Story” from April 2024 — can be found here, while all our paid-only episodes can be found here. They are many, they are varied (The Jam, Replacements, Kate Bush, Otis Redding, Blondie, & Parliament just some of our previous 27 subject matters), they all home in on a specific album or period, and dare we say it, but we think they are a cut above.

    In addition, we’re putting a different sonic spin on this episode of CROSSED CHANNELS by studding it with snippets of tracks from our current musical outfits — Dan’s solo project The Corinthian Columns and Tony’s band The Dear Boys.

    And finally, since we also talk in this episode about legendary recording sessions we would have loved to be flies on the wall for, we were wondering: which would be the one recording session you wish you could have attended? Feel free to leave your answer in the comments section of our Substack pages, which — like the rest of this episode — is open to all. Thanks for listening!



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    1 hr and 7 mins
  • Connecting with the Mothership
    Apr 9 2026
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    Welcome to the CROSSED CHANNELS podcast — a.k.a. the podcast in which music journalists/obsessives Dan Epstein (the Yank) and Tony Fletcher (the Limey) clash and connect over music from either side of the pond.

    This episode (our 27th!) focuses on an album from an artist we’ve wanted to discuss for ages: the legendary funk maestro George Clinton. The main reason we haven’t covered the good Dr. Funkenstein on the podcast before now is that the sheer breadth and brilliance of his six-decade discography made it difficult to decide how to approach it.

    Ultimately, we decided to hitch a ride on Mothership Connection, Parliament’s 1975 commercial breakthrough. The record not only gave Clinton his first million-selling LP — and his first million-selling single with “Give Up the Funk (Tear the Roof off the Sucker)” — but also introduced the first characters and storylines of the interplanetary Afrofuturist sagas that would dominate P-Funk’s albums and live shows over the rest of the decade.

    In this episode of CROSSED CHANNELS, Dan and Tony discuss why Mothership Connection was the album that finally brought George Clinton mainstream US success after over a decade of funking on the margins. But we also talk about why the album failed to catch on overseas, and why it would take a few more years before Clinton actually landed on the UK charts.

    And in addition to getting into the years and musical milestones leading up to the Mothership’s initial landing, we also touch upon Clinton and P-Funk’s widespread influence.

    To hear this episode in its entirety, along with all of our previous complete CROSSED CHANNELS episodes, just sign up for a paid subscription to one of our Substacks — or, better yet, sign up for both of them! Dan Epstein (the Yank) and Tony Fletcher (the Limey)

    By doing so, you will not only get CROSSED CHANNELS every month, but other exclusive posts from each of us, and full-time access to all the good stuff in our respective archives. Plus, your monthly paid subscription will allow us to afford our monthly post-recording repast over at one of our many fine (or at least passable) Asian eateries!

    And remember, CROSSED CHANNELS, unlike most podcasts, does not take ads: we value your intelligence too highly to subject you to that sort of thing.

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    14 mins
  • It's It's a Ballroom Blitz!
    Mar 5 2026
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    Welcome to the CROSSED CHANNELS podcast — a.k.a. the podcast in which music journalists/obsessives Dan Epstein (the Yank) and Tony Fletcher (the Limey) clash and connect over music from either side of the pond.

    This episode (our 26th!) will be our tastiest yet, as it focuses on British glam rock legends Sweet… or The Sweet, if you prefer. Dan and Tony are both major fans of the band, but came to their music in very different ways, Tony in the very early 1970s, Dan in the very late 1970s, and this is unsurprising, for while Sweet achieved significant hits in both the UK and the US, their success in the respective markets was rarely in sync.

    In this episode of CROSSED CHANNELS, Dan and Tony discuss Sweet’s tumultuous yet hit-filled history, and dig into why the American version of Desolation Boulevard is not only far superior to its British counterpart, but may also be the quintessential Sweet album.

    To hear this episode in its entirety, along with all of our previous complete CROSSED CHANNELS episodes, just sign up for a paid subscription to one of our Substacks — or, better yet, sign up for both of them! You will not only get CROSSED CHANNELS every month, but other exclusive posts from each of us, and full-time access to all the good stuff in our respective archives. Plus, you allow us to afford our monthly post-recording repast over at our local Chinese buffet! And remember, CROSSED CHANNELS, unlike most podcasts, does not take ads: we value your intelligence too highly to subject you to that sort of thing.

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    Theme music: "Put It Down" by The Dear Boys.

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    12 mins
  • Dan and Tony Get Their Ya-Ya's Out
    Feb 12 2026
    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit tonyfletcher.substack.comWelcome to the 25th episode of the CROSSED CHANNELS podcast — a.k.a. the podcast in which music journalists/obsessives Dan Epstein (the Yank) and Tony Fletcher (the Limey) clash and connect over music from either side of the pond.Dan & Tony Get Their Ya-Ya’s Out is an equally lively continuation of Episode 24, Should I Stay (Home) or Should I Go (Out)? in which we abandoned our usual focus on a particular band or artist from the UK or USA to take on the wide-ranging topic of live albums — official and otherwise. During that previous episode, Tony gave Dan hell for no longer going to see live shows, and Dan pointed out that his hearing is a lot better than Tony’s. And after arguing the positives and negatives of continuing to go out or stay home in one’s later years, the pair got down to answering some of the questions they had set each other: about the first live album they’d heard, or the favourite live cassette/bootleg of their formative years. Then they took a break and figured to stretch the conversation into two halves.And so, Episode 25 continues down this path of lively pub banter, the kind of “best” and “worst” lists that can be toxic on social media but are enormous fun when you’re sitting opposite one of your good friends and debating in real time. The questions we set each other and which we dig into on this episode include:* The best or most memorable bootleg you ever made yourself at a show.* Your favourite live album by anyone, for any reason.* The worst live album by an act that should have known better.* The live show you attended that you most wish had been recorded.* The live album that makes you most wish you could have attended.Does Tony mention every act he’s ever written a book about? Does Dan surprise Tony by referencing albums Tony has never heard of? Does Neil Diamond get a mention or was it edited out for reasons of length? And does Tony succeed in dragging Dan to an actual gig after they finish recording… or do they just go down the road for their usual post-pod meal at Kingston’s Yum Yum? (Hint: we record on a Monday.)Bottom line: we love doing this show, we have a lot more fun for doing it in person, and we know that this shows in the energy of the conversation. (We thank you for your feedback!) But also, we know our music – sort of! – and we love sharing our passion for it with you. So, if you are not yet a paid subscriber to either of our Substacks, maybe you should be, because, as always, the CROSSED CHANNELS episode is only available in full to paid subscribers of Jagged Time Lapse and/or Tony Fletcher, Wordsmith, though a short preview of the episode is available above for all to listen to. To hear this complete episode, along with all of our previous complete CROSSED CHANNELS episodes, just sign up for a paid subscription to one of our Substacks — or, better yet, sign up for both of them! You not only get Crossed Channels every month, but other exclusive posts from each of us, and access to all the archives all the time. Plus, you allow us to afford that post-pod meal at Yum Yum! Remember, Crossed Channels, unlike most podcasts, does not take ads: we value your intelligence too highly.And if you are already a paid subscriber to either of our Substacks, may we firstly say Thank You! And may we follow that up by encouraging you to get your money’s worth and download the podcast, or stream it on your preferred podcast app – info on how to do so is on the right-hand sidebar of this page on the web. We also welcome (paid subscribers’) comments. What is YOUR fave live album, by anyone, for any reason? What live show did YOU attend that you most wish had been recorded? And what do YOU consider the worst live album by any act that should have known better?Thanks so much for being part of our journey. If these “show notes” indicate a different writing style than usual, then you are paying attention. Dan normally writes them, but had some pressing personal matters this week, and Tony stepped in to scatter tradition to the wind. Episode 26 will feature Dan and Tony debating the British pop stardom and belated American fame for The Sweet. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
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    11 mins
  • Should I Stay (Home) or Should I Go (Out)?
    Jan 22 2026
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    Happy New Year everyone, and welcome to the 24th (and what we think may be the liveliest-ever) episode of the CROSSED CHANNELS podcast — a.k.a. the podcast in which music journalists/obsessives Dan Epstein (the Yank) and Tony Fletcher (the Brit) clash and connect over music from either side of the pond. And on this episode, we do indeed clash… though we also connect, as well!

    We thought we’d change things up a bit this time. Whereas we usually focus on a single band or artist from the UK or USA for each episode, this episode finds us widening the scope to take on the topic of live albums — officially released and otherwise.

    So for this episode of CROSSED CHANNELS, we dig into a deep discussion of some of our favorite live albums — and not just our “desert island” selections, but the live albums that introduced us to the concept in the first place, concert recordings that enriched our appreciation of certain bands, bootlegs that we religiously listened to during our teens, and live albums we wish we could have been present for the recording of.

    We also get into some of the worst live albums ever recorded by some of our favorite artists, all-time favorite concerts we’ve attended, and amazing shows we’ve witnessed that really should have been recorded for posterity. Place your bets now on how many times Tony mentions The Who in this episode, or how long it takes for Dan to bring up The Kinks…

    As always, this CROSSED CHANNELS episode is only available in full to paid subscribers of Jagged Time Lapse and/or Tony Fletcher, Wordsmith, though a short preview of the episode is available above for all to listen to. To hear this complete episode, along with all of our previous complete CROSSED CHANNELS episodes, just sign up for a paid subscription to one of our Substacks — or, better yet, sign up for both of them!

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    16 mins
  • Buzzcocks Love You More
    Dec 11 2025
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    Welcome to the 23rd episode of the CROSSED CHANNELS podcast — a.k.a. the podcast in which music journalists/obsessives Dan Epstein (the Yank) and Tony Fletcher (the Brit) clash and connect over music from either side of the pond.

    This episode was inspired by Tony’s recent five-part exploration on his Substack about how Buzzcocks invented pop-punk in 1978 with an incredible run of singles — and how his early-teen self reacted to each new one (and its B-side) as it was released. Dan, on the other hand, discovered the band like most American Buzzcocks fans did back then: via Singles Going Steady, a compilation released in September 1979 by IRS Records, which was the first Buzzcocks record to come out in the US. Side One of the album presented the band’s first eight A-Sides in chronological order, with their first eight B-sides arranged similarly on Side Two.

    We talk about Shelley’s knack for writing about romance from a gender-neutral perspective, the production genius of Martin Rushent, the underrated brilliance of the band’s guitar arrangements, how Steve Diggle was the “Dave Davies” of the band, and our favorite B-sides from that original batch of groundbreaking Buzzcocks singles.

    As always, this full CROSSED CHANNELS episode is only available to paid subscribers of Jagged Time Lapse and/or Tony Fletcher, Wordsmith, though a short preview of the episode is available above for all to listen to. To hear this episode in full, along with all of our previous CROSSED CHANNELS episodes, just sign up for a paid subscription to one of our Substacks — or, better yet, sign up for both of them!

    Theme music: "Put It Down" by The Dear Boys. https://thedearboys.bandcamp.com/album/put-it-down

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    13 mins
  • Go All The Way: Picking The Finest Raspberries
    Nov 12 2025
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    Welcome to the 22nd episode of the CROSSED CHANNELS podcast — a.k.a. the podcast in which music journalists/obsessives Dan Epstein (the Yank) and Tony Fletcher (the Brit) clash and connect over music from either side of the pond.

    This time out, we dig into a big bowl of Raspberries, the legendary American power pop band of the early 1970s. Formed in Cleveland, Ohio from the ashes of popular local groups The Choir and Cyrus Erie, the Raspberries were fronted by guitarist/pianist Eric Carmen, and also featured lead guitarist Wally Bryson, bassist Dave Smalley and drummer Jim Bonfanti.

    Between 1972 and 1974, the Raspberries enjoyed four Top 40 Billboard hits (including 1972’s “Go All The Way,” which went, er, all the way up to #5) and their riffy, hook-filled, arena-rocking brand of power pop would go on to influence several generations of pop-minded musicians — some of whom can be heard testifying to the importance of the band’s legacy on Play On: A Raspberries Tribute, the new 2-CD set released by Think Like A Key Music.

    But while the Raspberries were arguably the most commercially successful American power pop band of the 1970s, and their legion of fans included John Lennon, Bruce Springsteen and Tom Petty, they got a rough reception from US rock critics, many of whom derided their records for being too blatantly Beatles-esque. And the band, despite drawing heavily from British influences (especially The Who and Small Faces as well as the Fab Four), achieved little notice at all in the UK.

    In this episode, Dan makes a case for his twelve top Raspberries songs — three from each of their four studio albums — as he and Tony break down the (mostly) British influences that inspired their creation.

    As always, this full CROSSED CHANNELS episode is only available to paid subscribers of Jagged Time Lapse and/or Tony Fletcher, Wordsmith, though a short preview of the episode is available above for all to listen to. To hear this episode in full, along with all of our previous CROSSED CHANNELS episodes, just sign up for a paid subscription to one of our Substacks — or, better yet, sign up for both of them!

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    16 mins