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For Heaven's Sake

For Heaven's Sake

By: Shalom Hartman Institute Ark Media
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For Heaven’s Sake is a weekly podcast presented by Ark Media and the Shalom Hartman Institute, hosted by Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi. The podcast draws its name from the Jewish concept of machloket l’shem shemayim, “disagreeing for the sake of heaven,” which is exactly what takes place each week as Donniel and Yossi discuss the moral aspects of topics affecting Israel, world Jewry, and the future of Zionism.© 2020–2022 Judaism Politics & Government Spirituality
Episodes
  • As the Missiles Fly and Then Stop
    Jun 10 2026

    If Israel has successfully degraded the capabilities of Hamas and Hezbollah, why do so many Israelis feel less safe today than they did a year ago?

    In this episode, following a resumption of fire between Israel and Iran, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi explore the deep strategic divide over Israel's military progress. They assess the looming threat of a resurgent, economically rehabilitated Iran and investigate the failures of both military hubris and international diplomacy in an urgent examination of what happens when a country finds itself trapped between the futility of endless conflict and the illusion of easy political solutions.

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    Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org.

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    46 mins
  • When the Israel Day Parade is More Than a Parade
    Jun 3 2026

    Can American Jews define themselves through love of both Israel and America?

    In this episode, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi unpack a parade transformed by October 7, Mamdani's boycott, and how a historically innocuous parade has transformed into a profound act of defiance and vulnerability. They explore America as a "nation of nationalities" and its special place in Jewish identity, and Israel's obligation to celebrate world Jewry rather than simply demand its support.

    Ultimately, they challenge the Jewish community to reclaim an unmediated sense of pride, refusing to let enemies dictate the terms of their joy and connection.

    Watch the video version of our podcast on our Youtube channel.

    Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org.

    For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST.

    Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more.

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    32 mins
  • Who's In Charge? Israel's Angst
    May 27 2026

    Can a country recover its sense of agency when every front — external and internal — refuses to stay resolved?

    In this episode, recorded just as Prime Minister Netanyahu issued another emergency call-up of exhausted reservists, Donniel Hartman and Yossi Klein Halevi wrestle with the deepening Israeli loss of control. They dissect the gap between the Prime Minister's promise of "absolute victory" and the reality of an enemy that has emerged stronger since its recent conflicts, and trace how the trauma of October 7 still haunts a society that thought it had moved past helplessness.

    Looking ahead to the coming election, they explore why "who's in charge?" may once again become the defining slogan — and why the answer this time will determine far more than a coalition.

    Watch the video version of our podcast on our Youtube channel.

    Past episodes of this show, and other podcasts from Ark Media can be found at arkmedia.org.

    For more ideas from the Shalom Hartman Institute, visit shalomhartman.org, or JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST.

    Sponsor an upcoming episode of For Heaven’s Sake. Click here to learn more.

    Here’s more from the Shalom Hartman Institute this week:

    Learn more about and register for Hartman's summer programs in Jerusalem.

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    43 mins
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