AI isn’t just changing how we work — it’s changing how we think, behave, and relate to each other.

In this episode of HR Unlocked, Lisa Oakley is joined by Melissa Crawford, futurist and Director of Tech with Heart, to explore the human side of technological change.

With a rare combination of deep technology expertise and psychological insight, Melissa brings a fresh perspective to the future of work — not focused on tools or tactics, but on the subtle behavioural shifts AI is already creating.

From reduced tolerance for conflict to changing expectations of feedback, leadership, and performance, this conversation challenges leaders and HR professionals to think differently about what’s coming next — and what needs to change now.

What You’ll Learn

• How AI is reducing friction — and why that matters for behaviour and performance

• The psychological impact of AI on conflict, feedback, and resilience

• Why AI often reinforces thinking instead of challenging it

• What leaders need to understand about human behaviour in an AI-enabled workplace

• Why traditional career pathways may no longer be relevant

• How to stay employable and adaptable over the next 5–15 years

• The importance of building capability, not relying on stability

• Emerging signals around physical AI and workforce design

Key Takeaways

• AI is shaping behaviour — not just productivity

• Reduced friction can lower resilience and tolerance for disagreement

• Leaders must actively create challenge and critical thinking

• Career planning is shifting from fixed pathways to continuous capability building

• Future readiness is about adaptability, not certainty

• The human element of work will become more important, not less

About Melissa Crawford

Melissa Crawford is a futurist and Director of Tech with Heart, working at the intersection of people and technology.

With two technology degrees, a Master of Science in Psychology underway, and formal foresight training from the Institute for the Future and the University of Houston, she brings both academic rigour and real-world insight to the future of work.

Melissa has worked across New Zealand’s largest organisations in tech, airline, banking, FMCG, retail, education, and energy. She advises leaders, speaks globally, and sits on governance and advisory boards.

In 2025, she was recognised on the HRD Hotlist and received the Emerging Directors Award from the Institute of Directors.

Why This Episode Matters

If you’re leading people, shaping culture, or thinking about the future of work, this episode will challenge how you view AI — shifting the focus from tools to human impact.

Resources & Links

• Specialising in the Intersection of Future Technology and People

• Melissa Crawford | LinkedIn

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What does good people practice really look like in complex, human-centred environments?

In this episode of HR Unlocked, Lisa Oakley is joined by Gil Sewell, Chief People & Culture Officer at Ember Korowai Takitini. With over 30 years’ experience across the UK, Europe, and Aotearoa New Zealand, Gil brings a grounded, practical perspective on leadership, culture, and organisational effectiveness.

From global corporates like PwC and Fonterra to the mental health and addictions sector, Gil’s career has shaped a clear belief: people strategy only works when it makes sense for the business.

This conversation explores what happens when you move beyond theory and into real-world complexity — where communication, context, and capability truly determine outcomes.

What You’ll Learn

• Why good organisations are built through good conversations

• How organisational context shapes what “good” HR and leadership looks like

• The difference between commercial thinking and an enterprise mindset

• What working in the mental health and NGO sector really involves

• How mental health and neurodiversity show up in performance and employment situations

• Why communication and approach can make or break outcomes

• Lessons from a non-linear career path across sectors and geographies

Key Takeaways

• There is no one-size-fits-all approach to people strategy

• Context matters — what works in corporate doesn’t always translate to NGOs

• Strong people practice requires an enterprise-wide perspective, not just commercial focus

• Communication is often the difference between resolution and escalation

• Mental health and neurodiversity require thoughtful, practical leadership — not just policy

About Gil Sewell

Gil Sewell is Chief People & Culture Officer at Ember Korowai Takitini and believes good organisations are built through good conversations.

She has spent more than 30 years working with leaders across the UK, Europe, and Aotearoa New Zealand, helping organisations navigate change and build cultures where people understand what matters and can do their best work.

Her career spans executive roles in health, professional services, and global corporates including PwC and Fonterra, as well as founding and running her own consultancy.

Why This Episode Matters

If you’re working in HR, leadership, or people and culture, this episode offers a practical lens on what it really takes to lead well in complex environments — especially where mental health, capability, and organisational context intersect.

Resources & Links

• Ember Korowai Takitini

• Gil Sewell | LinkedIn

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How do you handle complex workplace issues without escalating risk, cost, or conflict?

In this episode of HR Unlocked, Lisa Oakley sits down with Aston Moss — a highly experienced HR and employment relations expert with over 30 years’ experience across New Zealand and Australia.

From major organisations like Briscoe Group, Fonterra, SkyCity, NZ Post, MIT and Woolworths, to now leading his own consultancy Principled, Aston shares practical, real-world insights into handling employment relations challenges, mediations, investigations, and strategic HR decisions.

This episode is a must-listen for HR professionals, leaders, and business owners who want to approach people issues with clarity, confidence, and commercial awareness.

What You’ll Learn

• How to approach employment relations issues early to avoid escalation

• The key difference between positions vs interests in mediation

• What makes an effective workplace investigation

• Why apologies matter — and how to get them right

• Lessons from industrial relations and collective bargaining

• How to balance employee needs with organisational realities

• The future of HR capability and the risks emerging in the profession

• Where AI fits into HR — and where human judgment is essential

Key Takeaways

• Early intervention in employment relations leads to better outcomes

• Mediation is about understanding, not “winning”

• A genuine apology can unlock resolution faster than process alone

• Strong investigations rely on clear scope and objectivity

• HR professionals need deeper capability in employment relations

• AI can support efficiency — but accountability stays with people

About Aston Moss

Aston Moss has spent over 30 years helping organisations navigate the complexities of people and performance. He has worked with some of New Zealand’s most recognised brands across both sides of the Tasman, operating at the intersection of HR and commercial leadership.

As Principal Consultant at Principled (NZ), Aston works directly with leaders, individuals, and organisations on employment law challenges, workplace investigations, mediations, and strategic HR decisions.

His approach is straightforward: cut through complexity, focus on what matters, and deliver practical, sustainable outcomes.

Resources & Links

• https://www.principled.co.nz/

• Connect with Aston Moss on LinkedIn

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Episode Summary

What does it actually mean to thrive at work — and what gets in the way?

In this episode of HR Unlocked, Lisa Oakley sits down with Carly Orr, Chief People Officer at Tower Insurance, to explore leadership, authenticity, and what it takes to create environments where people can genuinely do their best work.

With a non-traditional career spanning television, communications, and HR, Carly brings a fresh and practical perspective on leadership. From directing the 6 o’clock news to shaping people strategy in financial services, her journey challenges the idea of a linear career path and highlights the value of diverse experience.

This conversation dives into what sits beneath the surface of culture, how leaders influence behaviour (often unintentionally), and why real conversation still matters more than ever.

What You’ll Learn

• What it really means to thrive at work — beyond surface-level engagement

• How a non-linear career path can strengthen leadership capability

• Why trusting your gut matters in decision-making under pressure

• How to be solutions-focused while still understanding the rules

• What sits beneath the surface in culture and team dynamics

• The leadership behaviours that can create silence or unlock honesty

• Why video and real conversation cut through more than polished messaging

• How to lead with authenticity and courage

Key Takeaways

• Thriving at work starts with creating space for people to be themselves

• Great leaders balance instinct with experience and judgment

• Culture is shaped by everyday behaviours, not just strategy

• Silence in teams is often a leadership signal, not a people problem

• Real, human conversation drives connection and performance

• There’s no single path to leadership — diverse experience is a strength

About Carly Orr

Carly Orr is Chief People Officer at Tower Insurance, with a career that spans media, communications, and HR.

Starting as a receptionist at TV3, Carly spent 18 years in the television industry, moving into production and directing the 6 o’clock news at TVNZ before transitioning into corporate roles in organisational design and internal communications.

She later moved into the finance sector, combining her expertise across HR and communications to shape people strategy and leadership capability.

Carly is known for her authentic, courageous leadership style and her ability to help leaders create meaningful connection and performance in the workplace.

Why This Episode Matters

If you’re a leader or HR professional wanting to build stronger teams, create real engagement, and lead with authenticity, this episode offers practical insight grounded in real experience — not theory.

Resources & Links

• Carly Orr | LinkedIn

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HR Unlocked with Lisa Oakley is a leadership conversation series where thoughtful HR and business leaders share lived experience on people, risk, culture, and compliance. It is designed for business owners, senior leaders, and HR professionals across Australasia to learn from real decisions and leadership judgment. The show is a platform to honour the contribution of leaders willing to share their experience.

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