Charlie Gilder is stepping into what he calls “The Gilder Era”—and if you’ve been stuck overthinking every move, this episode is your wake-up call.

In this ZHZ Podcast interview, we talk about the mindset shift that helps artists stop staring at the problem up close and finally zoom out. Because in Independent Music, it’s way too easy to feel behind, feel overwhelmed, and feel like the whole game is stacked against you. Charlie keeps it real: you can either complain about the current music landscape… or learn how to play it and move forward.

If you’re building in the Utah Scene (or anywhere, honestly), this conversation is packed with perspective, encouragement, and practical ways to keep chasing your dreams without burning yourself out.

What we get into:

• The “Zoom Out” mindset (and why it changes everything)
• What “The Gilder Era” means and why people connect with it
• How to keep moving even when the work feels like a lot
• Encouragement for artists who feel stuck, tired, or behind
• Why “playing the game” doesn’t have to kill your creativity

Follow / Support Charlie Gilder:

Want to keep up with Charlie and what he’s building? Hit these links:

• Charlie’s main hub / store: https://gilder-prod.square.site
• Spotify (featured release): https://open.spotify.com/track/4r6Hs2yVVzXC5TGgXp84UF?si=Y8DB8yvNR16lMRrtHSSPYg
• (“Echo After Midnight” is expected around July 2026 — keep it on your radar.)

More ZHZ Podcast:

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https://zhzpodcast.riverside.com

Quick favor (helps a ton)

If this episode helped you, please like, subscribe, and drop a comment:

What’s one thing you need to “zoom out” on right now?

Chapters:

00:14 Introduction to the Gilder Era

00:45 Rapid Fire with Charlie Gilder

00:57 Connecting Through Music and Social Media

03:22 The Journey of an Independent Artist

05:37 The Gilder Era: A Movement of Self-Belief

07:39 Navigating Social Media's Impact on Connection

11:28 Echoes After Midnight: A New Musical Release

20:15 Zooming Out: Gaining Perspective as an Artist

24:49 The Importance of Music Promotion

28:41 Finding Your Audience and Release Strategy

31:34 Overcoming Self-Doubt and Embracing Vulnerability

33:53 The Mental Challenges of Being an Artist

38:00 The Power of Boldness and Self-Belief

45:04 Preparing for Live Performances

49:18 Incorporating Live Elements into Performances

52:20 The Importance of Authenticity in Live Music

53:17 Embracing Mistakes and Authenticity on Stage

57:15 The Role of Support in an Artist's Journey

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