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The Necessary Entrepreneur

The Necessary Entrepreneur

By: Mark Perkins
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Experience Earned. Execution Required. The Necessary Entrepreneur brings together people who are actively creating, not constantly consuming. Hosted by entrepreneur and operator Mark Perkins, the show assembles founders, operators, and investors doing the work. They share direct conversations about execution, leadership, and the realities of creating something that endures. The show rejects theory as a standalone and focuses on the discipline, decisions, and resilience required to stay in the game every day. Economics Leadership Management & Leadership
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  • #207 - AI, Delegation & Hiring: The Blueprint for Scaling a Business | Adam Spector
    Jun 29 2026

    Most entrepreneurs don't fail because they lack great ideas. They fail because they spend too much time working in their business instead of on it.

    In this episode of The Necessary Entrepreneur, Mark Perkins sits down with Adam Spector, Founder and CEO of Chore, to discuss why delegation, hiring, communication, and leveraging AI have become essential skills for entrepreneurs who want to build companies that scale.

    Adam shares lessons learned from building Chore, a business operations platform designed to help founders eliminate administrative bottlenecks and focus on high-value work. He explains why so many business owners become trapped by everyday tasks, how outsourcing can often outperform hiring, and why effective leadership begins with understanding your own strengths and weaknesses.

    Mark and Adam also explore the rapidly changing role of artificial intelligence in business, practical ways entrepreneurs can integrate AI into their daily operations, and why the future belongs to founders who embrace technology rather than fear it.

    Whether you're launching your first startup, growing a small business, or leading an established company, this conversation offers practical strategies for hiring smarter, communicating more effectively, and building systems that create long-term growth instead of constant overwhelm.

    In this episode, you'll learn:

    • Why founders get trapped doing low-value work
    • The difference between hiring employees and outsourcing strategically
    • How AI is transforming entrepreneurship and business operations
    • Why communication is one of the most overlooked leadership skills
    • Hiring slow, firing fast, and avoiding expensive hiring mistakes
    • How successful entrepreneurs continue learning and adapting
    • Why coaching can accelerate business growth
    • The mindset required to build a scalable company
    • Practical ways to automate repetitive business tasks
    • Leadership lessons every entrepreneur should know before scaling

    If you're an entrepreneur, founder, business owner, startup leader, or executive looking to build a business that doesn't depend entirely on you, this episode is packed with actionable insights you can implement immediately.

    Subscribe for more conversations with entrepreneurs, founders, CEOs, innovators, and business leaders who are building companies, creating jobs, and sharing the lessons they've learned along the way.

    📌 Connect With Us:
    Website: https://www.thenecessaryentrepreneur.com/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenecessaryentrepreneur
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenecessaryentrepreneur/
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheNecessaryEntrepreneurPod
    X (Formerly Twitter): https://twitter.com/MPerkinsTNE
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/tnepod/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tneclips
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6xhGUE1yzy2N0AemUOlJPx?si=d1c5c316af404f15
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/no/podcast/the-necessary-entrepreneur/id1547181167

    📌 Find Out More About Adam Spector & Chore:
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamspector2/
    https://www.hirechore.com/
    https://www.linkedin.com/company/hirechore/

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    47 mins
  • #206 - How Great Leaders Scale Through AI, Curiosity & Culture | John Sampogna
    Jun 22 2026

    What separates businesses that continue to grow from those that hit a ceiling?

    In this episode of The Necessary Entrepreneur, Mark Perkins sits down with John Sampogna, CEO and Co-Founder of Wondersauce, to explore the leadership principles, growth strategies, and mindset shifts required to build and scale a modern business.

    John shares lessons learned from leading a fast-growing agency through economic shifts, technological disruption, acquisitions, and the rapid rise of artificial intelligence. He explains why attitude often matters more than talent, how curiosity fuels innovation, and why self-awareness remains one of the most underrated leadership skills in business.

    Mark and John dive into the real impact of AI on marketing, hiring, creativity, and entrepreneurship. Rather than viewing AI as a threat, John discusses how leaders can leverage emerging technologies to eliminate mediocrity, increase efficiency, and create new competitive advantages.

    The conversation also explores talent retention, company culture, business acceleration, marketing strategy, navigating growth plateaus, and the importance of balancing long-term brand building with measurable performance marketing.

    Whether you're a founder, entrepreneur, executive, marketer, or business leader, this episode offers practical insights on adapting to change, building resilient teams, and staying ahead in an increasingly competitive marketplace.

    In This Episode:
    • How attitude shapes business success
    • The future of AI in marketing and entrepreneurship
    • Leadership lessons from scaling a growing company
    • Why curiosity is a competitive advantage
    • Talent retention and team development strategies
    • Performance marketing vs. brand marketing
    • Breaking through business growth ceilings
    • Navigating acquisitions and market cycles
    • The future of hiring in an AI-driven economy
    • Finding fulfillment while building a successful business

    📌 Connect With Us:
    Website: https://www.thenecessaryentrepreneur.com/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenecessaryentrepreneur
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenecessaryentrepreneur/
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheNecessaryEntrepreneurPod
    X (Formerly Twitter): https://twitter.com/MPerkinsTNE
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/tnepod/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tneclips
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6xhGUE1yzy2N0AemUOlJPx?si=d1c5c316af404f15
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/no/podcast/the-necessary-entrepreneur/id1547181167

    📌 Find Out More About John Sampogna & Wondersauce:
    https://wondersauce.com/
    https://www.linkedin.com/company/wondersauce
    https://www.jsamps.com/
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnsampogna/

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    55 mins
  • #205 - The Critical Minerals Crisis: Why the Future of AI Depends on Deep-Sea Mining | Oliver Gunasekara
    Jun 15 2026

    What if the next great resource boom isn't on land, but thousands of feet below the ocean's surface?

    In this episode of The Necessary Entrepreneur, Mark Perkins sits down with Oliver Gunasekara, founder and CEO of Impossible Metals, to discuss one of the most controversial and potentially transformative industries of the next decade: deep-sea mining.

    As demand for AI, electric vehicles, data centers, batteries, and advanced technologies continues to surge, the need for critical minerals has never been greater. Oliver explains how Impossible Metals is developing autonomous underwater robotics designed to harvest critical minerals from the ocean floor while minimizing environmental impact.

    Oliver shares the entrepreneurial journey behind building a venture-backed technology company operating at the intersection of robotics, mining, sustainability, national security, and energy independence. He discusses the challenges of scaling breakthrough technology, competing in global commodity markets, raising capital, hiring mission-driven teams, and moving quickly in highly regulated industries.

    Mark and Oliver also explore the future of AI infrastructure, the growing importance of rare earth materials, leadership lessons from world-class innovators, and why founders must learn to balance bold vision with disciplined execution.

    Whether you're an entrepreneur, investor, technology leader, engineer, or simply curious about the future of energy and critical resources, this conversation offers a fascinating look at one of the most important challenges facing modern industry.

    In This Episode:
    • The future of deep-sea mining and critical minerals
    • How underwater robotics are changing resource extraction
    • Why AI and data centers require massive mineral infrastructure
    • The national security implications of rare earth materials
    • Scaling a startup in a highly regulated industry
    • Leadership lessons from technology pioneers
    • Building mission-driven teams around ambitious goals
    • Environmental trade-offs in the global energy transition
    • Startup execution, perseverance, and long-term vision
    • The entrepreneurial mindset required to tackle impossible problems

    📌 Connect With Us:
    Website: https://www.thenecessaryentrepreneur.com/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenecessaryentrepreneur
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenecessaryentrepreneur/
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheNecessaryEntrepreneurPod
    X (Formerly Twitter): https://twitter.com/MPerkinsTNE
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/tnepod/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tneclips
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6xhGUE1yzy2N0AemUOlJPx?si=d1c5c316af404f15
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/no/podcast/the-necessary-entrepreneur/id1547181167

    📌 Find Out More About Oliver Gunasekara and Impossible Metals:
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/gunasekara/
    https://impossiblemetals.com

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    54 mins
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