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The Talking Tradesman

The Talking Tradesman

By: Russell Payne
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Raising mental health awareness throughout the uk building trades and beyond. Proving insight, knowledge and entertainment on a subject that needs attention and action.Russell Payne Hygiene & Healthy Living Psychology Psychology & Mental Health
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  • The Conversation that Could Save a Life - Rose Rowkins on Suicide Prevention
    Jun 17 2026

    How to Talk About Suicide - Rose Rowkins on Prevention, Stigma & Saving LivesSuicide remains one of the biggest public health challenges we face, yet many of us still feel uncomfortable talking about it.In this powerful and essential episode of The Talking Tradesman Podcast, I sit down with Rose Rowkins, a psychotherapist, speaker, and suicide prevention specialist who has dedicated her career to helping people develop the confidence and skills needed to support those in crisis. Through her work delivering suicide prevention training and founding Start The Conversation, Rose has helped countless individuals and organisations understand how open, honest conversations can save lives. Find Rose here -https://www.instagram.com/start_the_conv?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==Together, we tackle one of society’s most difficult subjects.How do we recognise when someone is struggling? What do we say if we’re worried about a friend, colleague, family member, or workmate? Why are so many people still afraid to talk openly about suicide? And what role do all of us have in preventing it?Rose shares practical advice, real-world experience, and simple but powerful tools that can help anyone start these conversations with confidence. We explore the myths surrounding suicide, the warning signs that are often missed, and why asking direct questions could be the first step towards getting someone the support they need.We also discuss the unique challenges facing the construction industry, where stigma, isolation, and a culture of “getting on with it” can often stop people from speaking up when they’re struggling.This isn’t a conversation about having all the answers.It’s about understanding that you don’t need to be a therapist to make a difference. Sometimes the most important thing you can do is start the conversation.In this episode:* How to talk to someone you’re worried about* Suicide prevention myths and misconceptions* Recognising warning signs and risk factors* Why people often struggle in silence* Mental health and suicide in construction* Building confidence to have difficult conversations* Reducing stigma around suicide and mental health* Practical tools that could help save a lifeIf you’ve ever worried about someone but didn’t know what to say, this episode is for you.The conversation could feel uncomfortable.Not having it could cost far more.Chapters00:00 Understanding Suicide and Its Impact04:19 The Journey into Suicide Prevention08:47 The Role of Friends in Suicide Prevention10:36 Reaching In: A New Approach to Support15:03 The Importance of Starting Conversations15:34 First Aid for Mental Health20:49 The Reality of Suicidal Thoughts24:52 The Need for Honest Conversations31:51 Creating Safe Spaces in Communities35:34 The Ripple Effect of Suicide38:22 Support Systems for Survivors of Suicide41:42 Introduction and Setting the Stage43:20 Trusting Your Gut: Starting Conversations About Mental Health46:36 Tools for Talking About Suicide48:43 Navigating the Conversation: Where and When to Talk51:09 The Importance of Active Listening53:22 Understanding the Impact of Fixing vs. Listening55:56 Recognizing Signs of Distress Beyond Words59:25 The Role of Community in Mental Health01:01:48 Learning from the Past: Recognizing Signs of Distress01:03:40 The Need for Proactive Engagement01:14:38 Creating a Livable Life: Beyond Conversations01:18:38 Building Community Connections01:22:13 Honoring Those Lost: Speak Their Name Initiative

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    1 hr and 26 mins
  • From Childhood Trauma to Addiction ; Reece Ishmail's Powerful Recovery Story
    Jun 10 2026

    What happens when childhood trauma, addiction and self-destruction take over your life?In this powerful episode of The Talking Tradesman Podcast, I sit down with Reece, a roofer whose life journey has taken him through some of the darkest places imaginable before finding recovery, purpose and hope.Find Reece Here - https://www.instagram.com/annex_roofing?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==Growing up in an environment shaped by trauma and abuse, Reece found himself carrying emotional wounds long before he understood the impact they would have on his future. As the years passed, those unresolved struggles fuelled a battle with addiction that spiralled out of control, leading him down a path of substance abuse, mental health struggles, rehabilitation and complete rock bottom.Reece speaks openly and honestly about the reality of addiction, the lies it tells you, the relationships it destroys, and the devastating effect it can have on every area of your life. He shares what it was like living in active addiction, the moment he realised something had to change, and the difficult road that followed as he fought to rebuild himself from the ground up.Today, Reece lives a clean and sober life and uses his experiences to help others understand that recovery is possible, no matter how hopeless things may seem. His story is a powerful reminder that addiction is often the symptom, not the cause, and that healing starts when we’re willing to confront the things we’ve spent years trying to escape.This conversation explores childhood trauma, addiction recovery, sobriety, mental health, rehabilitation, resilience, personal growth, men’s mental health and the life-changing power of speaking openly about our struggles.Whether you’ve battled addiction yourself, supported a loved one through recovery, or simply want to hear an incredible story of resilience and transformation, this is an episode you won’t forget.Topics Covered:✅ Childhood trauma and abuse✅ Addiction and substance abuse✅ Drug recovery and rehabilitation✅ Mental health and men’s mental health✅ Sobriety and staying clean✅ The impact of unresolved trauma✅ Recovery after rock bottom✅ Personal growth and resilience✅ Construction industry mental health✅ Finding purpose after addictionIf this episode helps you, inspires you, or makes you think differently about addiction and recovery, please share it. You never know who might need to hear this story today.Chapters00:00 Childhood and Family Dynamics01:12 The Impact of Abuse and Dysfunction04:25 Transition to Wales and New Challenges07:24 School Life and Behavioral Changes10:26 Early Encounters with Drugs13:32 Finding Stability in Work and Family16:24 The Role of Substance Use in Adolescence19:23 Reflections on Addiction and Recovery25:53 The Social Acceptance of Alcohol vs. Drugs28:23 Personal Experiences with Alcohol and Drug Use31:56 The Progression of Addiction and Its Impact35:08 Recognizing the Problem and Seeking Help39:41 The Turning Point: Entering Rehabilitation51:21 The Journey of Recovery and Finding Hope01:04:15 The Power of Conversation and Mental Health01:07:54 Breaking Down Barriers: Sharing Personal Stories01:10:24 Finding Freedom: Life After Addiction01:14:59 Rebuilding Relationships and Finding Purpose01:17:29 The Importance of Purpose in Sobriety01:22:12 Cultural Norms and the Need for Change01:25:30 The Role of Community in Recovery01:30:44 Generational Patterns and Emotional Awareness

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    1 hr and 39 mins
  • From Bosnian War Survivor To Casino Heist Mastermind & Federal Prison - Adnan Alisic
    Jun 2 2026

    In one of the most unbelievable stories ever told on The Talking Tradesman Podcast, Adnan Alisic shares his journey from surviving the brutal Bosnian War to becoming the mastermind behind one of America’s most audacious casino heists.Find Adnan Here - https://www.instagram.com/alisicadnan?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==https://www.facebook.com/alisicadnanauthorAs a child, Adnan witnessed the horrors of war in Bosnia, experienced ethnic cleansing, violence, and unimaginable trauma before arriving in the United States as a refugee with nothing. Through relentless determination, he built successful businesses, achieved the American Dream, and created a life many people would envy.But behind the success was a growing gambling addiction that spiralled out of control.After losing hundreds of thousands of dollars at the blackjack tables, Adnan became obsessed with getting his money back. What followed was an elaborate, Hollywood-style casino heist involving underground tunnels, fake weapons, smoke bombs, getaway vehicles, months of planning, and a daring attempt to steal millions from an armored cash delivery outside Casino Arizona. The robbery made international headlines.The plan failed.Adnan was arrested, convicted in federal court, and sentenced to 17 years in a US federal prison. In this powerful conversation, Adnan opens up about prison, faith, redemption, gambling addiction, trauma, personal responsibility, and how he rebuilt himself after losing everything.This isn’t just a story about crime.It’s a story about survival, obsession, consequences, resilience, and finding peace after destruction.Topics include:* The Bosnian War and growing up as a refugee* Building successful businesses in America* Gambling addiction and self-destruction* The Casino Arizona armored truck heist* Federal prison life* Faith, redemption and personal growth* Life after prison* Lessons from losing everythingIf you’re interested in true crime, prison stories, gambling addiction recovery, redemption stories, entrepreneurship, resilience, or powerful real-life journeys, this is an episode you won’t forget.You can Find Adnan's book here -https://tinyurl.com/Arizona-DreamChapters00:00 The Gambler's Journey Begins03:26 Escaping War-Torn Bosnia06:12 Adapting to a New Life in America09:13 Building a Business Empire12:20 The Descent into Gambling Addiction15:11 The Casino Heist: A Turning Point18:11 Planning the Heist21:13 The Execution of the Plan34:32 Planning the Casino Heist38:56 The Shift in Strategy41:08 The Day of the Heist53:35 Executing the Plan01:06:48 The Aftermath and Escape01:15:25 The Heist: A Plan Gone Awry01:18:34 The Chase: A Desperate Escape01:22:30 The Calm Before the Storm: Facing the SWAT Team01:26:00 A Miraculous Escape: Slipping Through the Cracks01:33:32 The Aftermath: Consequences of the Heist01:37:09 Facing Justice: The Reality of Sentencing01:44:43 Life in Prison: Surviving the System01:52:26 Returning Home: Adjusting to Life After Prison01:56:04 Finding Redemption: Overcoming Addiction

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    1 hr and 59 mins
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