In They Both Die at the End, Mateo spends his entire life avoiding anything that could potentially mean his untimely demise. Delilah avoids the reality that her death cast call was real and not a prank by her ex Victor. Andrea, a Death Cast employee who avoids feeling feelings or processing any of the sadness that surrounds her. And Vic does it too-but we just want to avoid thinking he was even in the book ugh.

We talk with our friend, Lindsay Armendariz about the ways avoidance shows up in this book and in our lives. And while avoidance can be helpful sometimes, too much will keep us from really enjoying the things that make us happy.

This is book club, not therapy :)

*This is our last book of Season 1! We will be taking a break for July and starting back up with Season 2 in August. * Subscribe to us on all of the platforms and follow us on the socials so you can stay connected for next season!

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The Nerdy Psychologist Book Club is produced by Brandi Hawk, Ph.D. and Deanna Boys, M.A.

Special Guest: Lindsay Armendariz, M.S.

Photography-Lighting-Audio Mixer: Matthew Kadi

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Original Music-Editing: Deanna Boys, M.A.

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