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Wit + Grit

Wit + Grit

By: PJ Ellis and Andy Dawson
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We’re PJ Ellis and Andy Dawson - two dads, two mates, who’ve spent our lives working across business, law, education, charity, and media. Between us, we've made a lot of mistakes, asked a lot of questions, and raised kids who are about to walk into a world of work that’s nothing like the one we grew up in. That’s why we started Wit + Grit - a space for real, human conversations about what it takes to thrive in a world full of AI, constant pressure, and curated perfection. This podcast is about the skills you can’t Google. Things like confidence, resilience, emotional intelligence, how to fail well, how to bounce back, how to speak up, and how to listen. We’re not here to give perfect advice. We’re here to ask better questions. How do we prepare our kids for jobs that don’t exist yet? How do we connect generations in a divided, digital world? What makes someone truly employable in 2025 and beyond? Each episode, we’ll chat with educators, grads, parents, leaders, misfits, mentors, and all-round brilliant people who’ve lived through the stuff that doesn’t come with a textbook. If you’re a parent, a young person starting out, an old-head or experienced leader, or just someone trying to figure out how to be more human in a world full of noise - this one’s for you. Follow us, subscribe, and let’s have the conversations that matter - with a bit of humour, a lot of honesty, and absolutely no corporate jargon. You can connect with us at: https://www.linkedin.com/company/107731497/ LinkedIn: PJ Ellis & Andy Dawson Let’s get into it.Copyright 2026 PJ Ellis and Andy Dawson Career Success Economics Relationships Social Sciences
Episodes
  • Changing What This Name Represents. The Gabriel Imevbore Story
    Jul 7 2026

    Gabriel Imevbore joins us to share his journey from growing up in Erdington, Birmingham, experiencing family breakdown and homelessness at 19, to becoming the youngest trustee in YMCA Heart of England’s 180-year history.

    In this good-old-heart-to-heart conversation, Gabriel talks about ambition, faith, entrepreneurship, Birmingham, fatherhood, opportunity, social mobility and why your circumstances may shape your opening chapter - but they don’t have to write the ending.

    Key takeaways

    Your story is shaped by what you choose to do next.

    Young people need opportunity, not judgement.

    Birmingham has huge entrepreneurial talent that needs backing.

    Leaders must stay close to the ground level.

    Parents should respect the inspiration behind a child’s dreams.

    Unconventional thinkers need space to thrive.

    Success is health, family, purpose and giving back.

    Representation matters - but so does opening doors for others.

    Keywords

    Gabriel Imevbore, Wit and Grit, Birmingham, YMCA, homelessness, entrepreneurship, social mobility, young leaders, resilience, Birmingham business, opportunity, youth employment, leadership, community, personal story, Future Faces, National Grid, UpStride, AI, fatherhood, purpose, ambition.

    00:00 Gabriel's Early Life and Ambitions

    01:36 Challenges and Turning Points

    03:57 The Role of Education and Mentorship

    07:27 Finding Opportunities and Building a Network

    10:14 Community Impact and Giving Back

    11:51 Leadership and Ground-Level Engagement

    14:49 Pathways to Progress and Social Mobility

    16:09 Reflections on Talent Recognition and Future Aspirations

    16:38 Bridging Generational Gaps

    21:24 Entrepreneurial Journey and Community Impact

    23:18 Personal Growth and Family Dynamics

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    32 mins
  • Abi Edmunds: Your Child Isn't Just Scrolling.
    Jun 16 2026

    As our government moves towards restricting social media access for young people, the debate has shifted from whether there is a problem to what we do about it.

    In this episode, we sit down with Abi Edmunds, founder of Social Media Resilience, to explore the realities of growing up online and the skills young people need to navigate an increasingly complex digital world.

    From social media bans and online safety to AI-generated content, misinformation and emotional resilience, Abi shares what she’s learning from thousands of conversations in classrooms across the UK.

    Most importantly, she explains why banning technology alone won’t solve the problem. and why critical thinking, community and open conversations may be our best defence.

    Whether you’re a parent, teacher, employer or simply trying to make sense of modern life online, this is a conversation that matters.

    Key takeaways

    The social media ban is the start of a solution, not the solution itself.

    Young people don’t need more lectures. They need more conversations.

    Social media isn’t just scrolling. It’s community, identity, friendship and belonging.

    The most important digital skill may be critical thinking.

    We’re about as good at spotting AI content as flipping a coin.

    Online resilience starts with one simple habit: pause.

    Children often understand the technology better than adults. Adults need to understand the environment better than children.

    If we remove one platform, young people will find another. The underlying need for connection remains.

    Parents don’t need all the answers. They need better conversations.

    The future belongs to people who can question what they see, not just consume it.

    Keywords

    Social Media Resilience, Abi Edmunds, Online Safety, Digital Wellbeing, Critical Thinking, AI, Artificial Intelligence, Misinformation, Disinformation, Social Media Ban, Online Harm, Parenting, Education, Future Skills, Mental Health, Emotional Resilience, Young People, Schools, Technology, Digital Literacy, Media Literacy, Social Media, TikTok, Instagram, Algorithms, Wit + Grit Podcast

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and episode overview

    00:36 Social media restrictions for youth: insights and challenges

    01:34 Australian social media trial: what worked and what didn't

    02:54 Introducing Social Media Resilience: mission and impact

    04:46 Parents' concerns and the importance of resilience education

    05:42 The evolving online landscape and youth behavior

    07:18 Classroom conversations and engaging young learners

    09:29 Building critical thinking skills and online literacy

    10:18 The influence of tech companies and behavioral design

    11:55 Society, democracy, and the power of algorithms

    12:24 Misconceptions about social media among parents

    13:38 Hope and opportunities in social media use

    14:39 Curriculum design for online critical thinking

    17:02 Role of schools and teachers in online safety education

    18:31 Success stories and classroom breakthroughs

    19:30 Practical tips for parents: grayscale and digital habits

    20:14 Teaching critical thinking in a world of AI and deepfakes

    21:05 Spotting AI-generated content: challenges and techniques

    21:45 The future of media and AI in society

    22:28 Personal social media habits and professional boundaries

    23:17 Advice for young adults on social media awareness

    24:04 Encouraging offline communities and healthy social habits

    25:00 The upcoming Screen Smart Parents newsletter

    26:27 Closing remarks and key takeaways

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    28 mins
  • Reclaiming What It Means To Be Human with Workforce Futurist Stuart Evans
    Jun 10 2026

    In this episode, we sit down with workplace futurist Stuart Evans to explore AI, robotics, the future of work and what it all means for young people.

    From agentic AI and humanoid robots to university debt, entry-level jobs, adaptability and the future of human skills, this is a conversation about what happens when work changes faster than our old systems can keep up.

    Stuart challenges the idea that young people should simply follow the same paths as previous generations and argues that the most valuable future skills may not be technical at all - but deeply human.

    Key takeaways

    * Work is shifting from a place you go to something you do.

    * AI assistants are only the start; agentic AI is the real shift.

    * Repeatable tasks will increasingly move away from humans.

    * Young people may be inheriting outdated career advice.

    * Degrees won’t always be the best route to meaningful work.

    * Adaptability may be the most important future skill.

    * Humans tolerate human failure more easily than tech failure.

    * Generation Alpha may redefine what work and success mean.

    * The future may need fewer traditional jobs, but more human value.

    * The big question is how humans and technology work together.

    Keywords

    AI, future of work, agentic AI, workplace futurist, Stuart Evans, human skills, adaptability, Generation Alpha, robotics, humanoid robots, young people, careers, education, university, employability, automation, leadership, emotional intelligence, strategic thinking, technology, work culture, Wit + Grit.

    Chapters List

    00:00 The Future of Work: A New Landscape

    03:07 AI and Its Impact on Employment

    05:42 Humanoid Robotics: The Next Frontier

    08:21 The Changing Perception of AI

    10:52 Education and the Skills Gap

    13:21 The Role of Adaptability in the Future

    16:01 Redefining Success for Future Generations

    18:24 The Shift in Work Dynamics

    20:50 Community and Career Identity

    23:38 The Future of Work: A Choice, Not a Necessity

    29:30 Understanding Generation Alpha: Digital Natives and Their World

    32:48 Education in the Age of AI: Preparing for the Future

    35:21 Navigating Career Paths: Embracing Adaptability

    37:35 The Ethics of AI: Data Centers and Autonomous Weapons

    39:40 Neuralink and the Future of Human Enhancement

    41:01 The Metaverse: Reality vs. Virtual Experience

    43:11 The Future of Work: A Blended Human-Digital Workforce

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    47 mins
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