Anger is not what we are — it is a language of the heart. And conflict is the ground anger grows in. In this episode, Pattie Krohn and Paige Payne get honest about their own experiences with anger, welcome a guest who shares their personal story, and explore what it looks like to walk alongside someone locked in conflict — without rushing to fix, without taking sides, and without looking away.

"Be angry and do not sin. Don't let the sun go down on your anger, and don't give the devil an opportunity." — Ephesians 4:26–27

In this episode:

• What anger actually feels like: the hot side, the cold side, and the confused middle
• Why anger itself is not a sin, but how the Fall corrupts it into something destructive
• Pattie and Paige share personally from their own experiences of anger and conflict
• A guest shares their story of walking through conflict and what shifted
• Practical ways to walk alongside someone in anger without being swept into it

Resources mentioned:

• Good and Angry — David Powlison — available wherever books are sold
• Resolving Everyday Conflicts — Ken Sande — available wherever books are sold
• CCEF Podcast: "Anger" — Ed Welch and Myriam Hertzog — ccef.org/podcast
• 3Crosses Church Care Page & Care Sheets and additional resources
• Ephesians 4:26–27; Exodus 34:6; Titus 3:3–5; Psalm 4 — biblegateway.com

For further support: If conflict or anger is causing real harm in your relationships, you don't have to navigate it alone. Consider reaching out to a trusted pastor, counselor, or friend. If anger has become dangerous — involving threats or violence — please contact appropriate authorities or a licensed counselor immediately.

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Grief is not a problem to be solved but an honest journey; a human response to love and loss — and it matters deeply to God. In this episode, Pattie Krohn and Paige Payne share from their own experiences of grief, welcome guests who open up about profound loss, and explore what it looks like to stay with someone who is mourning — without minimizing, without rushing, and without looking away.

"Jesus wept." — John 11:35

In this episode:

• What grief actually feels like — including the unwitnessed losses others don't always name
• Pattie and Paige share personally from their own stories of loss
• Guests share their experience of profound grief and what helped them carry it
• Why lament is one of the most profound expressions of faith — not a failure of it
• Practical ways to show up for someone in grief long after others have moved on

Resources mentioned:

• A Grief Observed — C.S. Lewis — available wherever books are sold
• A Prayer in the Night — Tish Harrison Warren — available wherever books are sold
• Grief: Finding Hope Again — Paul David Tripp — available wherever books are sold
• 3Crosses Church Care Page & Care Sheets and additional resources
• Psalm 22; Psalm 56:8; Psalm 88; John 11:35; Romans 8:18–26; Revelation 21:4; 1 Thessalonians 4:13 —biblegateway.com

For Further Support:

If this episode surfaced grief you've been carrying alone — old or new, consider reaching out to a trusted friend, pastor, or licensed counselor. Walking with someone through grief is not a handoff. Getting support is not a failure of faith.

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A note before you listen: this episode covers depression and suicidal ideation honestly and directly. If you are in a vulnerable place, please listen with someone you trust nearby.

Depression is not merely sadness. It is something darker and more stubborn — a fierce darkness that touches the body, the mind, relationships, and the soul. In this episode, Pattie Krohn and Paige Payne name what depression actually feels like from the inside, welcome a guest who shares their own story of walking through it, and explore what it looks like to stay with someone in the darkness — without panic, without platitudes, and without looking away.

"Into the fierce darkness of depression comes the piercing light of the world."

In this episode:

• What depression actually feels like — and why it is not a thinking problem or a faith problem
• What Scripture shows us about depression through the lives of Moses, Elijah, David, and Jesus
• A guest shares their personal story of depression and what helped them carry it
• How to walk alongside someone in depression — including how to ask directly about suicidal thoughts
• Practical guidance on what to do if someone you love is in crisis

Resources mentioned:

• Depression: Looking Up from the Stubborn Darkness — Edward T. Welch — available wherever books are sold
• Spurgeon's Sorrows — Zack Eswine — available wherever books are sold
• Descriptions and Prescriptions: A Biblical Perspective on Diagnosis and Medications — Mike Emlet — available wherever books are sold
• “Is Suicide an Unforgivable Sin?” –Derek Thomas, Ligonier Ministries, https://learn.ligonier.org/qas/is-suicide-an-unforgiveable-sin
• 3Crosses Church Care Page & Care Sheets and additional resources
• Psalm 22; Psalm 31; Psalm 88; Matthew 26:36–46 — biblegateway.com

If you or someone you love is in crisis:

Asking about suicide does not plant the idea — it is an act of love. If someone you know is in danger, do not walk away.

• 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline — call or text 988 (save this number in your phone)
• Crisis Text Line — text HOME to 741741 (mental health crisis support)
• If there is immediate danger, call 911 and stay with them until help arrives

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