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Lifting, Running and Living with Kelly and JK

Lifting, Running and Living with Kelly and JK

By: Kelly Lutz and JK McLeod
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Welcome to Lifting, Running & Living! As coaches in the fitness space and two humans who love movement (running for Kelly, strength for JK), every episode will contain some element of fitness, plus a variety of other topics we're seeing, dealing with or hearing about. Join us every other Friday for chit chat, tangents & lots of laughing.Kelly Lutz and JK McLeod Exercise & Fitness Fitness, Diet & Nutrition Hygiene & Healthy Living
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  • 80. Has Wellness Culture Taken Optimization Too Far?
    Jun 19 2026

    In episode 80, JK describes starting a 30-day no-complaining challenge after noticing how easy it is to “cosign” others’ complaints, and he’s traveling to Omaha for a 14U baseball tournament and a College World Series game, while Kelly is traveling to Chicago, increasing running volume, lifting twice, and monitoring a heel issue that’s improving. They then talk about “health maxing,” reacting to a resurfaced Diary of a CEO clip where Steven Bartlett said three glasses of wine led to worse sleep, eating, gym performance, and podcasting for days, debating wearables, optimization culture, and checking in with yourself before device metrics.


    00:00 Cold Open and Intro

    00:33 Today’s Topics Preview

    01:26 Kelly’s Chicago Update

    05:06 JK’s No Complaining Challenge

    13:50 Omaha Travel Baseball Plans

    16:10 Courtesy Plates Gym Etiquette

    21:25 Health Maxing and Viral Clip

    25:03 Critiques of Optimization Culture

    28:34 Recovery Time Skepticism

    30:10 Bad Optimization Example

    34:13 Sobriety vs Fun Debate

    39:18 Wellness Surveillance Culture

    42:46 Wearables Help or Harm

    44:49 Metrics Anxiety in Training

    49:55 HRV and Zone Two Hype

    52:09 Actionable Takeaways

    55:30 Wrap Up and Plug


    Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠

    Email us at ⁠⁠⁠liftingrunninglivingpod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠

    Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠

    Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

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    56 mins
  • 79. Brick Updates, The Enhanced Games, and Coach/Influencer Transparency
    Jun 5 2026

    Kelly and JK start with both sharing updates on using Brick, a physical device that blocks apps/websites until you tap the phone to it. JK also announces Help Me Understand will relaunch in July back to broader topics while he starts a new fitness-focused podcast, Make Fitness Make Sense. They then discuss the Enhanced Games and debate whether coaches/influencers should disclose use of PEDs, HRT, fat burners, peptides, or GLP-1s, referencing a GLP-1 disclosure controversy and advising people to look for long-form content to vet consistency and context.


    00:20 Episode 79 Topic Tease

    01:11 Kelly Brick Explained

    07:21 JK Brick Review

    15:05 Podcast Relaunch Plans

    19:19 Enhanced Games Overview

    25:53 Enhanced Games Reactions

    33:39 Can Drugs Break Records

    36:11 Optimization Manosphere Angle

    37:14 Disclosure Rules For Influencers

    45:53 Coaches PEDs And Trust

    47:10 GLP-1 Controversy Case Study

    50:23 How To Vet Fitness Claims

    52:08 Wrap Up And Contact Info


    Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠

    Email us at ⁠⁠⁠liftingrunninglivingpod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠

    Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠

    Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

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    53 mins
  • 78. Mile Time Trials, Brick & Being “Fit Enough”
    May 22 2026

    Kelly and JK open with quick life and training updates, including a recent track session that turned into a hard mile effort and early impressions of using the Brick device to curb phone and social-media habits. From there, they introduce a broader conversation about what it means to be in a “good place” with fitness and discuss how different environments and platforms can shape self-perception. They close with a few practical ideas for keeping comparison in check and building a clearer personal definition of progress.


    Timestamps:

    01:45 Chicago Trips and Heel Rehab

    03:03 Birthday Mile Time Trial

    11:37 JK Update The Brick Device

    24:14 Main Topic What Is Fit Enough

    26:07 When Fitness Feels Enough

    26:34 Defining a Good Place

    34:55 Fitness for Real Life

    37:41 Strava Comparison Spiral

    40:23 Exposure Changes Standards

    48:13 Practical Tips and Wrap



    Follow the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠@liftingrunninglivingpod⁠⁠⁠

    Email us at ⁠⁠⁠liftingrunninglivingpod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠

    Follow JK at ⁠⁠@coachjkmcleod⁠⁠

    Follow Kelly at ⁠⁠⁠@runningklutz ⁠

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    53 mins
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